She should have dropped out March 5 when she failed to significantly dent Obama’s delegate lead.

She should stay in. Choice is good, right?

She should drop off the face of the planet. Obama should not even consider her as a running mate. I wouldn’t put it past her to have him bumped off like JFK Jr. and Ron Brown to ensure that she become president. HRC/LBJ

PRJ, you don’t think Obama’s going to need Clinton to win the presidential election?

I don’t think that either a woman or an African American can win the Presidency yet. To give young African American males hope for the future, I think that Obama should be the nominee. Geraldine Ferraro gave young females hope.

She gave it a good run but it’s over now.

Her scorched earth politics were a detriment of the party but they helped vet Obama and now it’s time to concede defeat, unify the party and take on McCain

I think McCain would make a better president than Obama!

[Say what?! -Antonio]

I’ll probably be voting for Nader

The core value of Obama’s campaign is to change the way things are done. Putting Hillary on the ticket undermines that point. bush80, bush84, bush88, clinton92, clinton96, bush00, bush04, NO CLINTON–08!

The bulk of Hillary’s support came from women who believe in NARAL stuff.They have no place to go, and they will realize that when they get a good look at the not so straight talking McCain. Do the women who supported Hillary really want McCain to pick a couple of Supreme Court justices?

Black support for democrats is not so much based on how great the candidates have been—it has been taken for granted because they have had no place else to go. They come through for democrats in huge numbers—and so will women.

Antonio, I was pulling a Hillary with my support for McCain.

I didn’t mean that I thought Hillary should be VP - I don’t think that at all. I just don’t believe she should disappear. Despite what some commenters here may think, she’s a popular Democrat, which is the reason she’s still in the race and not completely blown out. If the Democrats want to win in 2008, she needs to be campaigning hard for Obama. In fact, if she disappears from the scene, I’ll never forgive her or Bill. And I’m an Obama supporter.

Thank goodness for May 6th, 2008. It is finally, finally over. We’ve got a lot of work to do to bring Clinton’s supporters over, and to remind America what an unacceptable choice McBush truly is. Hillary will most likely announce the suspension of her 2008 campaign after the Kentucky results allow her to leave on a high note, but could also last throughout the remainder of contests but one thing is for certain- Barack Obama WILL BE the 2008 Democratic nominee. Now, on to putting distance between Obama and McBush and hopefully the promise of a meaningful urban agenda.

I doubt if Obama needs Hillary to win if he can beat her for the nomination. I don’t want to live in a country with Billary Bush anywhere near the WH. That’s too long for Yale and Skull and Bones!

PO,

You should remember that there are a LOT of Hillary people out there or this wouldn’t have gone on so long. If they stay home in November because she’s not on the ticket, McCain will win. Obama can’t beat the whole Republican party with only half the Democratic one.

To suggest that Hillary has any connection to Bush or Skull and Bones is ludicrous. That’s an old white boys club. White women are no more welcome than black men are.

I understand the concept of party unity, but who else will Clinton supporters vote for??

Doug–they may choose not to vote, or write in Hillary’s name, as I contemplate doing. I vote for who I want, not out of party “tell me who to vote for” mentality. If all the Hillary supporters, or even a large chunk, choose to not vote, write in Hillary, or vote for a 3rd party if there’s one on the ballot, then Obama has trouble. He needs Hillary supporters in order to win.

I don’t get all the dissension.

McCain is a RINO. We will be choosing one of 3 Democrats to be our next president.

Although, Ron Paul is still in the race…

McCain is pretty damned conservative. He’s reversed course on even the areas where he did disagree with Bush and the base, except for campaign finance and global warming.

To be serious, he also might seriously have some Vietnam flashback. The guy has used the term “gooks.”

Angry McBush cannot be considered. Let’s get through this process and unite to prevent at least 4 more years of the same. I can’t imagine ANYONE thinking the last 7 years was worth extending beyond the current despicable administration, so what is the point of writing in Hillary’s name, or voting for Nader or anyone else? Let’s get past this and support the candidate that has endured this long nominating process.

That’s what it will take, which is why PO needed to be reminded that Obama does, in fact need Hillary supporters in order to win.

Anon—you—and a lot of the media—do not seem to have noticed the humongous turnouts and new voters inthe democratic primaries. Low turnouts are the republicans’ best friend–new voters, especially young ones, are their worst nightmare. Of course, some will write in Hillary, or refuse to vote—but in a close bruising contest like this one—the polls are going to reflect a lot of frustration and disappointment. McCain will be looked at very closely by the voters—and a lot of them are not yet aware of some of the bizarre ideas of McCain, and where he intends to go with the supreme court appointments.

Obama can communicate—he will find ways to inspire those who are disappointed.

Women will be subtly affected by the comparison of Obama’s wife to McCain’s wife. It will all add up in a cumulative effect.

Billary has a marital link to skull and bones

my research tells me that bill, hillary, and gdubya planned jfk jrs plane crash

take another look at ron brown’s similar demise

the idea that obama needs hillary is absurd
he has beat the breaks off of her without any help; he is very competent

with her as a vice president, an assassination is sure to follow

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m talking about Hillary as a surrogate for the candidate, not as vice-president. And yes, Obama does need Clinton, along with every other Democrat, to get out there and advocate for him.

My research tells me that Po Righteous Teacher planted the dioxin in the guy from the Ukraine, gave Jack Ruby cancer and killed Vince Foster.

be careful Papillon, you never know

The sooner this painful process ends, the sooner we can take a few steps back and know what the larger picture is all about. By early July, this will no longer be about Hillary and the news media will be fully focused on the two general election candidates and the battles of their party surrogates. We cannot afford to allow a third despicable GWB term by way of letting Angry McBush take the White House. It’s time to get past the primary season and gear up to defeat the party that represents all of the cancerous disease that we’ve been suffering so terribly these last 7 years. We have a candidate, let’s get behind that candidate and direct our attention to those who believe the Bush administration’s policies deserve an extension of 4 years. Let’s get this done folks.

This is simple math, people. Add up the number of Republicans likely to vote for McCain, and figure in a few independents. Then look at the total number of Democratic votes available (and a few independents) and subtract the substantial number who voted for Hillary in the primaries. Some of you may like to think Obama blew her out of the water, but it’s not true. He’s got the most votes but it was hardly an obvious or decisive primary season. The Republican number is larger. Obama needs the votes of those who voted for Hillary in the primaries. I am not saying he won’t get them or shouldn’t. I am saying it’s ludicrous to state that Obama can win if a large portion of those who voted for Hillary don’t switch over. Saying he can do this without those who previously supported Hillary is a completely unsupportable statement. At least Clark gets it.

And if that reality plays out, those voters were never committed Democrats to begin with, and their willingness to put their bitterness and selfishness ahead of the needs of this country will prove their worth as Americans. Hillary lost. Get over it. The one time inevitable has been bested by another candidate who believed in his strategy to win. He won. I’m sorry if you cannot accept that now, but in time you will. It is now the responsibility of the Clinton’s to make certain her supporters are aware of the stakes this fall, and she can then prove the loyalty to the party that’s been so unshakably loyal to her and her husband for so many, many years. It’s time to move on folks, and for some of those deeply embittered by the denial of Hillary’s ascension to the Oval Office there will be no consolation. They will act out of spite, and though shameful it’s understandable. Some will not come to support the nominee, but most will. She competed and she lost. It’s the nature of life on Earth. Let’s move forward folks.

I don’t know what is wrong with all of you and your failure to grasp logic here. The issue brought up was the statement that Obama can win without anyone who voted for Hillary voting for him in the general election. It is obvious he mathematically cannot. Has nothing to do with anyone getting over anything, or party unity, or anything else, it is about that being a completely false statement. And you know it is by stating that the Clintons need to be certain her supporters vote for Obama. If he didn’t need her, you wouldn’t be saying that. This failure to be able to follow a logical train of thought is a scary statement on the American populace.

There are plenty of people in this country who are not committed to either the Republican or Democratic party, and many voted in the primaries. Pretending they don’t matter is not a wise move for a candidate, and I don’t think Obama is as cavalier about independents as his supporters on this blog are.

Get over it. Yeah, that always changes people’s minds. Good thing I don’t hold Obama accountable for the ridiculous statements of some of his supporters.

I realize it is hard for you to believe that some of us honestly don’t think Obama is the better choice, that he is too new and untested to be handed the reins of this country at this time. Had he been willing to be VP this time, we could have had 16 years of good Democratic leadership after he learned the ropes of foreign policy and been elected in 2016. In my mind, had he been willing to put the country ahead of himself, he would have pursued that route instead of ever putting the party through this–not as in bowing out, but as in not starting this to being with. You would rather say we who feel that way are bitter and selfish and unAmerican than acknowledge Obama could be anything but perfection incarnate. Well, for the sake of the country and the world, I guess we better hope you are right.

I agree with a lot of what you say here anon, and your basic point is correct. Obama’s not going to win against McCain unless a lot of Clinton supporters come on board, and that’s not going to happen automatically. But I have to take exception to this:

“we could have had 16 years of good Democratic leadership after he learned the ropes of foreign policy and been elected in 2016″

Obama has good foreign policy instincts, and he is surrounded by top-notch foreign policy advisors. He consistently articulates a better foreign policy vision than Clinton, who, despite her own experience, has flubbed some key decisions during her Senate career and in the campaign. “Learning the ropes of foreign policy” so often in American politics means learning how to be reflexively hawkish, and that’s not what we need right now.

Anon- The failure to grasp logic is entirely yours. The construction of your argument around the notion that Clinton supporters are somehow OWED something by the prevailing candidate is plainly ridiculous. The understandably heartbroken but spiteful Clinton supporters voting against their own best interests in the fall, to gain revenge, shows a lack of conviction, maturity, and frankly commitment to their country. Moving beyond the despondency resulting from the stinging loss of a preferred candidate in a protracted and tough battle will require a lot. This can certainly be appreciated, however it is not the sole responsibility of Senator Obama to placate the disconsolate Clinton supporters, but instead it is the responsibility of the Clintons, the Democratic party, the ongoing Obama campaign, you, me and the others interested in much needed change to tell everyone ELSE about the importance of the upcoming fight in the fall. The obvious need for change is unassailable, and to restore and then preserve the greatness of this nation we’ll need to move forward with impetus. The fight for party representation is now over, and so let’s please move forward for change, unless someone would like to offer the possibility that extending the dignity and life-destroying policies of the last 7 years is somehow a positive alternative to Senator Obama.

Senator Clinton fought a hard battle but lost. This primary contest is over, and beliefs and personal estimations regarding who is the best candidate between Senators Clinton and Obama now serves little purpose. The frame of mind that insists on the perpetuation of this uselessness needs to be shifted. Dwelling on unalterable facts won’t somehow replace Obama’s name with Clinton’s atop the party ticket this fall, and moving beyond the emotionally draining fight and undeniable verdict of the American voters this primary season will take place, whether some who post comments here want to accept that or not. Many fans of the New England Patriots simply couldn’t believe their quest of seemingly inevitable perfection would be halted by an upstart New York Giants team, but it happened. A small number of Patriots fans will never recover, I suppose, but the overwhelming majority of Patriots fans have recovered and are looking forward to their promising future. The fans of the heavily favored yet defeated Patriots team knew their team’s loss was played out on the utmost fairness of the neutral field, and that their team was not denied something by the league nor owed anything by the team that won. Moving on and looking to the future is the always the best means of recovery.

McCain is a RINO! Ha!

In 2007, he recoved a ZERO from NARAL. His most recent Americans United for the Separation of Church and State rating is 33. The right-wing Club for Growth gave him a 100 in 2007. In 2007, the League of Conservation Voters gave Johnny a big fat ZERO. And on and on. He is “maverick” when he’s on the Jay Leno show, or when liberal columnists are busy kissing up to Republicans instead of writing about real Democrats, but when it comes to voting and acting, he has a few unorthodox stands but is really a main line Republican.

…and therefore unacceptable by all measures. Let’s move forward for change this fall, and get it done.

John W,

This is the last time I am going to repeat myself so go ahead and reply to this so you can have the last word. Read your own statement which clearly says that you expect Hillary supporters to back Obama in the fall. Go back to the beginning premise of this whole thing, which was the statement that Obama doesn’t need Hillary supporters to win. Reconcile the two. You can’t, because Obama needs the votes of many who previously voted for Hillary in order to win the election. That’s unassailable logic. The issue is not if they will or if they owe Obama supporters allegiance. The issue is math. If Obama doesn’t get those votes, he loses. End of story. The question isn’t about anything more than math. You wouldn’t spend so much time telling Hillary supporters to “get over it” if you didn’t know Obama needed their votes. If he didn’t, you wouldn’t care.

Reverse what you just said and know that without the demographic slice of the American pie that Hillary managed to lose for herself by her campaign’s reckless assertions (beginning in South Carolina and continuing, for some inexplicable reason, to this day), she would not have the votes to win in the fall. It’s a simple fact. Instead of planting such factual statements in discussion thread, and leaving them out there for others to presume their value, give a reason as to why you would make such a statement. I made no such statement that Obama can win without significant support from Clinton’s followers, so I’m not really sure where that came from, but as to your assertion of the simple fact that he will need them has not been challenged by me. Your statement of that fact is no revelation, and it is not unlike what has occured regularly in past campaigns. OK. It is fact that Obama will need Clinton’s supporters to support him in the fall. Any further expansion on that, or you just want to leave that out there, hanging?

Hillary Clinton lost. It is now time to move toward the fall with the candidate that the voters have chosen. Let’s get it done.

Or is it the candidate the media decided for you?……

Turd—a lot of the media’s dream matchup was Hillary and Giuliani. For a long time, they took it for granted. But there were enough of them who reported some stuff to give voters some different ideas.

By the time the stodgy old centrist media started covering for them—it was too late.

Kudos to the voters—and the more wide awake people in the media.

Giuliani and Hillary were seriously flawed candidates—and unlike flawed candidate george bush—there was someone who challenged them.

I’m not saying the media wouldn’t have preferred Clinton vs. Giuliani, I am saying that once Clinton was effectively out, they went on to their next best man.

Anon—being the math genius you are—can you give the time or the number of the post where someone asserted that Obama does not need Hillary’s supporters to win?

Granted, there were various opinions of how much Hillary herself is needed—there are various opinions about what obama needs to do to convince them to help him, and there are various opinions of just how likely it is that he will not be able to convince them.

But no one, so far as I could tell, was asserting that Hillary’s voters are not needed.

I am not saying that Obama doesn’t need the votes from those who supported Clinton, I AM saying that he is perfectly articulate enough to get their support without HILLARY CLINTON!

Once they listen to what he is saying, they will probably wonder why they supported her in the first place.

Vice President names like Charlie Rose, Micheal Bloomberg, or Ted Turner come to mind. But they would not likely run. So you have another knowledgeable person in Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri.

I started a Draft Claire for Governor in which we had over 75 team captains statewide in 2003. She instead became a US Senator two years later. Claire McCaskill was a prosecutor in Kansas City, a single mom while serving as state representative for 3 terms and then a State Auditor. Her knowledge of local, state, and Federal levels of governments and how they work is extremely important. There has likely never been a vice presidential candidate which such a record of service.

She has become known as a center of the road legislator fighting for anti ear mark legislation and an accountability office for expenditures on the war. What she is most noticed for is that she has a pulse of the people that comes naturally and speaks out for the people when something is not in their best interest concerning government or important issues. Yes two inspiring candidates who bring out the best in people on the ticket sound real good.

Steven L. Reed

Springfield MO

Let’s pull it together and win folks. We can do this.

What do we actually win john w? What is the prize? When Obama becomes president, and he will, will that stop the progression of the police state ensured to follow with the issuance of the New World Order? Will the freedoms and liberties guaranteed within the Constitution be restored?

Po, you lost me…

go to youtube or google and search NWO or New World Order

search police state + alex jones + 911

http://www.americanpolicestate.org/

If it’s on the internet, it must be true.

DeNILE is more than an Egyptian river. The information has been around since before internet access existed.